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From your comment I don't know you have tried this or not, but get some sessions with the best trainer you can. Singing and even speaking with a good voice is incredibly counterintuitive for some people, speaking from experience. You might have everything needed for a great voice expect the skills, or you might be trying for a voice that's far from what works well for you.

You can. That progression is normal. I know this because I am such a case. I wasn’t able to produce a single sound on pitch. Now I can nail some songs (as long as they don‘t go crazy on technique).

Learning to sing is taking control of your voice. You use the same biology that you have been using for speech and other vocal sounds since birth. It all comes built in. Of course it comes more naturally to some people, just like any other activity.

There are some decent videos on YouTube, but take actual vocal lessons if you can. Videos are not a substitute for lessons.

I don‘t like the posted page. The descriptions aren‘t very helpful and neither are most videos on YouTube. I know from experience. For a complete beginner, this is frankly a useless resource.

Being able to sing on pitch is more music training than voice training. Music can be trained in any voice pretty much. As for vocal range - it is one of the easiest ones to improve! Simple daily drills can get you there. It's the same for simple voice quality things like learning to sing from your chest/diaphragm rather than just a head/nasal voice. As for having an "aesthetic voice", the steps needed is is extremely specific to each individual and each trainer. Both of you will "path" towards something that will be aesthetic for you and also achievable. Musicians e.g do this to adapt themselves to the "beloved" voice of their target industry. For an example, see https://www.google.com/search?q=arijit+singh+voice+transform... - the AI overview is a pretty decent summary with links to original source. Bollywood really likes love songs to be in husky male voices, so he adapted to that. You don't have to do all that of course, but a small % of similar work will get you to "aesthetic" territory.

Listening to lots of vocal music (preferably with very light accompaniment) also helps a looot. We are really good at imitation.

> How come some people can naturally sing and others produce a horrible screech?

From my own experience many of those "natural" singers simply grew up around music, so it can definitely be learned. Natural talent doesn't really go that far and it's just a small temporary boost that can just as easily be ruined by bad habits later in life. The same is true for other physical abilities.

Some of the best singers got their start on wind instruments. Music is all one big ecosystem of overlapping skills. Unless we're talking legendarily insanely great levels of singing, I don't think any musicians would agree singing is all that special.

In fact, if you isolate the vocals on many hit tracks you might be surprised and disappointed.

As with many things in life, see it like stats in an RPG: your 'character' may have "0" in the singing skill INITIALLY. But it's still a skill that you can learn, even if you start low.

However, what is true is that, you will sound like YOU. You can get close or make impressions of artists you like. But ultimately your voice is YOUR instrument and it can gain range, and power, but you'll sound like you.

For instance, I'm well aware that I will never have "Celine Dion's voice". I don't mean her skills, I mean literally her voice.

That's what one of the first AND biggest tough thing to accept when singing: you might never sound exactly like the singers you admire. But it doesn't mean you can't sing or be extremely good at it.

It's like Michael Jackson was sad because he knew he would never be able to sing like Barry White. Does that mean Michael Jackson is not a good singer? Nope.

It can be taught!

I can play instruments but never thought I could sing outside a range of less than an octave in the baritone range.

When I was 50 we had a singing teacher over at our house for my children. I asked if she could help my range. That day she took my voice to a high C. I am actually a tenor and can sing pretty much all the high parts. I am my in-laws’ favorite opera singer now.

Also I was too timid. Singing is really just controlled shouting.

Some vocal techniques - like belting and the classical voices - require the actual development of musculature, both to hold a shape (for high pitches) and to be able to stabilise shapes. That's not going to happen overnight, so you have to spend sometime sounding horrible before you can do those well. That doesn't mean it's impossible - it's like lifting weights, anyone can improve it.

However, that's not the techniques used in the majority of popular singing. You absolutely can sound drastically different very quickly. This is simply because most people don't use most of the degrees of freedom that the voice has. If you look at the Estill method reference material, which concentrates on how the vocal system features actually operate to produce different vocal effects, they identify around 14 degrees of freedom.Some discrete, but a lot of them continuous. It is very common for someone who thinks that they have a terrible voice to take a few lessons and find that they can sound much better. It's just that, as another commenter pointed out, you can't see inside your own mouth and throat. You can't see that you're always holding them in a certain way.

For example, some women habitually sound shrill, usually because they have had to develop a penetrating voice. This is often true of teachers, who have to be able to make themselves heard over a bunch of shrill children (and aren't able to use the option of a deep bass). This is a vocal technique (twang) but it can also become habitual,to the point where they don't think they can do anything else.

Ed Sheeran used to be bad at singing [0]. So was Jon Bon Jovi.

In-person vocal lessons and consistent practice have dramatically improved my voice from terrible to half-decent.

[0]: https://youtube.com/shorts/I05Ahr0tpAc

Anecdotal evidence from my own singing at 20 compared to 40 seems to point to the opposite.

Genetics limits your potential and influences your timbre, but pretty much anyone can learn any technique, and I'll go out on a limb and say anyone can learn to sound really good.

Why do people that don't know how to do a thing vibe out reasons that they'll never be able to do it? It's the hugest self-own. Also if you don't know how to do it, why would you assume it's based on some secret anatomical lottery. Could it just be you don't have access to the right information and direction for improvement at the moment?

Yeah I took over a year of singing lessons from a vocal coach and saw minimal improvement.

That’s fine, but it annoys me when people lie about this stuff. I don’t say everyone can program, and that’s okay. Nobody can say “everybody can X” because nobody has met every person.

There is such a thing as being tone deaf. It's hard to get good if you can't even tell if you're bad, and I've been to enough karaoke nights to know that most people can't tell how bad they sound.

Yes everyone can sing, but not everyone can be listened to :).

Thanks for feedback. I'm fixing that immed.

Jesper

Thank you

They didn't?? Jokes aside. You're right. I'll update immed.

Huge thanks for your thorough feedback. Do you have some links for this info that I can examine?

Btw. I'm investigating how I can map the traditional Vs CVT without doing too much confusion. I'm leaning towards keeping traditional and adding cvi notes. And a mapping page.

Let's see

>For all those who think they're not talented and therefore can't learn how to sing, some good news here: Learning to sing is a matter of coordinating and strengthening muscles, so it can be practiced and improved just like anything else. The predisposition is largely the same for everybody (vocal pathologies excluded).

When I got children I started singing for them almost every night. After doing that for some years now it's incredible how much better my singing has become (for me at least). Before that I didn't dare to sing when other people could hear me, but now I have no problems with that. I really enjoy singing for my kids and look forward to it every evening.

Was looking for this comment. You articulate it well. Many people claim they "can't sing" but when they try it's clear to me they just have an underdeveloped muscle control

I like the message but I think it's worth tempering people's expectations. I spent years working with a few different voice teachers and the amount of practice and dedication you need is substantial. Even after the best part of a decade I am unable to belt.

If that's true, why do some multi-person bands have some good looking people that can't sing, even after decades of going? Do they not practice every day? These are famous people but I never seem to have seen any famous bad singer which eventually becomes a good singer.

Totally!! I mean, like everything else in life there are people with more innate skills for it and people with less, but again like everything in life if you put the right amount of effort you can go from zero to "hey you are not bad!".

In my case, I've always had good musical hear but I always struggled with anything passing (I think) B4. Now, 3 years ago I joined a totally amateur choir and our (wonderful) teacher makes us do every week 15 minutes of breathing/belt exercises. Not a lot, and it was pretty hard getting the right coordination in the beginning but eventually stuck. And now I can reach D5 and even E5 when pushing out all the air I can. It's still a bit complicated to control the volume at that pitch but I would never ever imagined I could do it 3 years ago!

I've been taking classes for one year when I was in uni, about 15 years ago. I have always had the problem that I would run out of voice after 1-2 songs. My teacher at the time kept saying my problem was that I had to strengthen and use the diaphragm, which I did but only made little progress. Eventually, since every class felt like defeat, I gave up. Did I just not train enough? Likely. Do you have any advice to share?

Thanks for posting this. I hate (frequently) hearing people conclude that because they haven't previously learned to sing or play an instrument, that they're simply "not musical," as if this weren't a normal capacity that simply takes practice.

Thank you for the feedback, caryme.

And big yes - there is no better ressource than a voice teacher!!

This is just a lookup tool (and then some)

> Current literature does not distinguish between head voice and falsetto.

Hmm, are you sure about this? I thought chest voice and head voice were understood to be a single register called the modal register. And falsetto was fundamentally different.

Thanks for adding your thoughts. First tenor here with a high C+ when trained and active. I lost my (true) falsetto 10 or so years ago, any tips on how to get it back?

Also I lost my whistle register 30 years ago, but I think this is normal :)

> both are M2

They have qualitatively different sounds and, without significant training or a bit of luck, a break as you transition between those qualitatively different sounds. Even if not a laryngial mode, is it not worth giving that observation a name?

:-)

Thanks. I'll look into that. It was recommended exactly for backtracking but I get that if you want to leave it's a whole lot of backpaddling :-)

You can also hold down the back button to get a menu of previous pages in order to skip multiple back button presses. (I still agree with your point and you might already know that. Maybe it helps someone.)

Well I knew that ;-D

The actual point is a guide for people who wants to sing or already sings. A handy tool to lookup how to ...

I'm not positioning it as anything else.

Regarding AI. Sure i used it. But i use it as A(ssited) I(ntelligence). Being both a singer and developer I hope I qualify

> It's just a glossary of singing terms, that if you sing at all you would know pretty much all of them.

Not everyone studies theory. I sing in my church choir but I had heard of almost none of these terms before. So don't underestimate the value of a glossary.

For the average non-schooled singer there is a lot of new information here. I have sung most of my life, in choirs, in church, and otherwise (not much in the shower though), and don't explicitly know most of these things. I have heard there are things like chest and head voice but I wouldn't know where one ends and the other begins.

à la Frasier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdLJfz157uk&t=70s

Not true :-) I care a lot

It's an AI website with zero credentials

Yeah, this can be confusing. This is referring to the "growl" effect in complete vocal technique. Imagine Christina Aguilera making a dramatic car engine growl when you kick down the gas pedal. I think this is roughly what this is about.

Not growl as in death metal vocals.

It's not metal growling. Thanks for mentioning this. I'll add a note to the effect

Thank you for your feedback. Means a lot

Could probably just add Mike Patton to all the sections lol

I agree. Will add

Thanks and I agree. And yes Claude is on the team :-)

Thank you. I would if I could.

Also not considering beatboxing :-)

True. Imho Chris Cornell is the goat

Yeah, it's very inconsiderate. Let's say I'm a total beginner (which is why I'm reading this guide, right). How could I know which tutorial is good?

Thanks for the feedback. This is on the list. Im looking into that. I can't and won't myself. I'd like to find someone that shows this consistently.

I should prop inform better that this is a search.

Yes it is. And simplified. Can't put everything in a headline.

Goal is to be a good tool that addresses bad habits too, helps a bit.

Hopefully more ppl will sing (better) and without harming themselves.

Make sense?

Thank you for taking the time to make this!

Some sponsored or affiliate links would be totally reasonable compensation for your efforts, IMO.

I'm sure you can find some formulations that are AI written. Because I've used AI for structuring content and developing site.

As I wrote somewhere else this is made with AI, not by AI.

Ive been singing and developing for years. I'm not the expert but using others. Also, anyone finding anything that looks remotely wrong, I'll happily receive the feedback and update.

And use chatgpt, but use it the same way. Be curious if it's correct.